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Could you please introduce yourself for us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=0.0,4.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Akua S: Hi, I am Akua Serwaa-Sefa, and I am a junior. No, I’m a senior now at the college [ed. note: Emory College of Arts and Sciences], and I’m majoring in Religion and Sociology which is a joint major, and my second major is Psychology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=4.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: So tell me where you’re from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=18.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Um so I was born in Ghana, and when we immigrated to the United States, we lived in the Bronx for a couple of years, which I often go back to. And then I was mostly raised in Columbus, Ohio, which is where I came to Atlanta from, but now my parents live in Massachusetts, so I kind of have to juggle going to all three places, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=20.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: So which of these is home to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=43.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Um ok so home is where the heart is. So, I guess between Massachusetts and Columbus, ‘cause my family’s split between the two, but I would say the place I am the most comfortable in is probably Columbus, Ohio, just because, like, I know all the streets. I don’t have to use a GPS when I go there. My best friends—I made my best friends there until this day. That’s where we go to mutually meet up and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=45.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Is Atlanta home to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=74.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: No. Atlanta is just where I spend most of my time, yeah. It’s where I kind of have my apartment. Where I spend eight to nine months of the year, but it’s not where family is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=76.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: You don’t feel like you live as part of Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=90.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think I do feel I live in Atlanta, but I don’t necessarily know if I would call Atlanta home because I don’t think I have like, bases in Atlanta, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=94.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How do you experience the city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=104.0,106.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I eat. I eat a lot. I love food. Starting this semester, I’ve really made an intention of going to different places and eating there. I’m actually gonna go and stop by a place after this interview, which I hope to continue my senior year. Definitely going to more things even if it’s by myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=106.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Is there one type of food that Atlanta does exceptional?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=130.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Atlanta has so many different people that I can’t say one kind of food stands out. I think you can find exceptional food within every culture. Yeah, I can’t pick one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=133.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: What were your objectives of coming to Emory or, rather, going to college?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=150.0,156.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: My objectives of going to college…I really, really wanted to graduate with at least a 3.6 GPA. I came in here, specifically in my head, like, I cannot go below 3.6 GPA. That is no longer the case, and that’s okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=156.0,176.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How did you reach that conclusion to start with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=176.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Freshman year. I didn’t come in pre-med. I came in as a psych major. I knew I wanted to do psychology, and I did not come in pre-med, but I came to Emory, and when you come to Emory, pre-med is thrown at you. Everybody around you is pre-med. The pre-med requirements are thrown at you, and I think I fell into that wave. I became pre-med, and I took chemistry, and I hated it. I should have dropped it, and the funny thing is, I took AP [ed. note: Advanced Placement] chemistry, I took AP bio, I took physics. I graduated high school with a distinction in the sciences and the math. I really loved it in high school, and I passed all my exams and got the college credit for it, but I came to Emory, and I hated the chemistry. I hated it. Chem brought my entire GPA down. I’m barely making it out of it still. As someone who is done with their junior year, I’m still trying. I probably won’t graduate with a 3.6.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=179.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: What changed where your expectations were no longer to reach that 3.6?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=241.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Reality. In terms of the way college is set up and the way the GPA’s are set up. Once you get a bad grade, it hits your GPA really, really hard, and you can spend two years of your college career trying to bring your GPA up, and it’ll only go up like point two. Even if you do get all A’s because of the way that the credit system and everything is. It’s reality in the sense that the fact that I can’t reach that 3.6. I think, right now, I’m at a 3.2. By the time I graduate, maybe, I’ll have a 3.5, but a 3.6 is pushing it. I’ll probably end up with a 3.4. It’s not easy to bring your GPA up once it’s really sunk, and it really did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=246.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How do you feel about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=301.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I feel like,..I think I’m good. I do really well in dealing with downfalls in life. I was definitely one of those people that graduated high school valedictorian, distinctions. I took classes at the Ohio State University while I was still in high-school. I graduated always being that smart girl. That was my major identity, and then you come to Emory, and you’re mediocre. That’s really what it is. You’re mediocre. Everybody around you is smart. Your ACT and your SAT scores only matter up until your first day of college. After that, nobody really cares. It becomes about the grade and becomes about the GPA. That’s not really the type of person that I am, and that’s not the way I learn. If I go into a class, and I know I’m in the class for the grade, I tend to not do well because I don’t like that. I take classes because I truly love the acquisition of knowledge because I want to know what the class is about and what the professor teaches. When it gets to that point where it’s like, I’m just trying to get the grade. I end up doing really horrible, or if I don’t like the professor, that also affects my grade. I think realizing that you’re not that smart, which is a very negative way to put it, but that’s what it ends up being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=305.0,398.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Did this perception of mediocrity change how you see yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=398.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: No. I think that there are other aspects of life that I’m really good at. I might not be very good at sitting down and taking exams, but I know I’m really good at conversation. I know I’m really good at networking. I know that I can really change my personality and the way that I present myself to fit every situation that I’m put in. I honestly think that’s more important. I’ve picked up the saying that college is about networking. It’s not necessarily about the grades. There are people who graduate with a 2.5 who can get amazing jobs because networking, or because their parents are rich. Either way, for me, my parents are not rich. I have to rely on that networking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=403.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Do you have a few ways or examples of how you’ve learned to network?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=451.0,457.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Sending thank you notes after meeting someone, and it doesn’t really have to be immediately after. I always like to wait three days because then I feel like the person will think like, Oh you forgot, and then they receive that email like, No I didn’t, and in that email, be really specific about an interaction that you had with them and then keep that going. I know a couple of people that I’ve met this semester that I sent a thank-you note to that I’m probably gonna reach out to one in the summer or before I leave Atlanta to let them know that I still want to keep that contact, and checking in every month or two, I think, keeps that network going. And I don’t wanna say you’re using them as a way to get up in the world, but that’s what it is—but you build genuine relationships along the way with people who genuinely will want to help you succeed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=457.0,514.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: You mentioned there’s a difference, in your view, between people who are rich and not rich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=514.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=519.0,520.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How do you feel that that has shaped your experience here, and how do you perceive that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=520.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think that is probably the number one defining factor of my experience at Emory. Emory is filled with kids that are very, very rich. I didn’t grow up rich. I grew up very, very low-income, and every year, it hits you in the face because you have to fill out the FAFSA [ed. note: Free Application for Federal Student Aid], but in addition to fill out the FAFSA, Emory also makes you fill out this thing called the CSS [ed. note: College Scholarship Services] profile which is—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=525.0,549.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: The FAFSA is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=549.0,551.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: The FAFSA is the federal—[pauses] honestly, I forgot what it stands for, but it’s a government thing, application thing, that you have to fill out to determine your family contribution to your college costs, and mine’s is always zero. My expected family contribution will be zero because my parents don’t make a lot of money, and, in addition to that, Emory makes you fill out this thing called the CSS profile, which my freshman year asked me absolutely ridiculous questions like, Do your parents have any overseas accounts? Do your parents own any other estates? The thing about it is the students who are filling out the profile, those questions don’t apply to them, and if it did apply to them, they wouldn’t be filling out the profile because they know that they’re not gonna get the money because they have the money. Every year I have to fill out two. Each one costs twenty-five dollars. I’m spending fifty dollars just to tell y’all that I don’t have money which, the FAFSA already tells you guys for free. That’s the thing. You’re spending more money unnecessarily. It just irritates me, but every year, when you fill that out, it always asks for your parent’s taxes, and it lets me realize how poor we are, but I mean it’s fine. It is life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=551.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think being a black student at Emory, it is a predominantly white institution. There’s a lot of white people here. I got over that very, very quickly, and it became about the fact that people can really afford things that you cannot afford. They can afford to go on really expensive vacations that are not expensive to them because they have it in their budget. Their parents send them money every month. I remember this one time my friend was telling me freshman year about how one of the kids on her floor was mad because her grandma only sent her a thousand dollars that month. Only sent her a thousand dollars that month instead of sending her more. I’m like—she sent you money? Every month? That’s a thing, and you’re mad because she sent a thousand instead of sending more? I’m just like, Wow. It’s two very, very different worlds, and I think I definitely notice it in the way that students at Emory live their life very affluently which is not something that I can afford as of now. I think it surpasses race because there are a lot of black students at Emory who are very rich as well who are also very affluent. Race is not that determinant factor for me. Everybody wants to put up this image of the poor college student like, I’m a broke college—No, you’re not broke. Your parents send you money every week. It doesn’t matter how much it is. They send you money. You’re not on food stamps. You know how you’re going home. Your plane tickets are already paid for. I will never forget my freshman year, in order to come to Emory, I didn’t have money for a plane ticket. I took the Greyhound, and from Columbus, Ohio, it was supposed to be—I don’t even remember how long it was supposed to be, but it ended up being twenty-two hours in a Greyhound, which is absolutely horrible. I told myself, I will never do that again, and I have never done it again. I can’t. I can’t do it. They don’t really know what it means. There are other students who are low-income and first-generation as well, but the majority of Emory students don’t know what it means to be a broke college student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=630.0,763.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How does this factor into how you engage with other students?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=763.0,767.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I don’t think it really changes the way I engage with other students because I view it like, Yes there are some of them who are rich and haven’t really worked really hard for anything they have in life. It’s given to them, and then there are some people whose parents had to work hard in order to give their children that lifestyle. I think everybody’s different. God gives everybody different decks of cards, and you make the best of it. I know that there are some experiences that I have in life, and I have being a student at Emory that they cannot relate to. That’s okay. It’s life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=767.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Do you have an example?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=809.0,812.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think, in terms of freshman year, ‘cause I don’t think most of Emory students come from Georgia or even Atlanta. A lot of them are international or come from other states. They’ll go out all the time freshman year because they want to explore Atlanta and want to do things. They go out constantly. As a freshman I wasn’t doing that because I couldn’t, you know what I’m sayin’? You just see it and how much more experiences they get to have in the city of Atlanta. I think it really hits you your freshman year. That difference in the things that you can afford.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=812.0,853.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Do you resent this or how do you feel about this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=853.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think for me I say that it is what it is. I know why I came here. I know I have to work harder than most of the other students. My father isn’t a rich CEO or a lawyer or executive or whatever it is. When I leave college, I don’t have a job waiting for me at the family firm or something like that, or the family friend’s firm. That’s not how my life works. I’m going to have to go the extra mile, and that’s okay. I think I would rather work for the things that I get and know that I deserved it, than know that I got it because I have money. I don’t know. I don’t mind working for where I want to be in life ‘cause once I’ve reached that position or that place in life, it makes it more worthwhile, and I won’t be so quick to throw it away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=860.0,914.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Considering these experiences, how do you feel about Emory and yourself when you return home?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=914.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think there’s a very stark difference. Growing up, where I lived was where I lived. It was home. I remember I didn’t go home Thanksgiving break or fall break my freshman year, or most of my years because I can’t afford to go home that many times. I stayed here. So, winter break, when I went home, and I had one of my friends pick me up from the airport ‘cause I lived really close to the airport at the time. We’re driving up to my neighborhood, and I was like, Wow my neighborhood is ugly. It’s very run down, and it’s getting better, but it’s very run down. It was just ugly, and I don’t think I’ve ever noticed the ugliness before, and I think it happened because I had just spent four months of my life at Emory where everything is literally made out of marble. Where the neighborhoods, the communities around Emory, are really, really nice houses. Four bedrooms and stuff like that. I was like, Wow talk about a difference in community. Now, I don’t go home as much because, at this point, I’m an adult, and I live in Atlanta, but I definitely notice it. I think there are a lot of hardships, and all my friends are from the same background as me. Well, my friends back home are from the same background as me. We all went to colleges with a lot of white students that are very, very rich that are driving the Bugatti’s and the Ferrari’s. I don’t even understand why you have that type of car as a college student but whatever. We’re all used to it. It helps having people that can relate to you in that field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=922.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: You’ve been able to maintain your friendships?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1034.0,1036.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Oh yeah, I’ve been friends with my best friends for eight years. The friends that I have here, honestly, I think, coming in freshman year, you make a lot of [air quotes] friends [air quotes], but you know who your real friends are by the end of sophomore year, and that’s not necessarily because something bad happens. You get closer to different people. The same friends I’ve had freshman year are exactly the same friends I have now, which seems to always happen for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1036.0,1066.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How is college different from what you expected?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1066.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I thought I was going to be living life. I have not been living life. I live my life at the library. I definitely thought it was going to be more social. I thought, coming to Emory, like, This is Atlanta, Georgia. I’m gonna be in Atlanta. I wasn’t ever much of a party girl, but I was gonna be going to the clubs, gonna meet a whole bunch of new people. First of all, Emory is not in Atlanta. It’s in Decatur, Georgia, and Atlanta is a twenty, twenty-five-minute drive from Emory. Academics take over your life, and I wasn’t expecting that. I definitely was expecting the rigor and the coursework, but it was a whole lot more than I expected. My sophomore year, the entire year, I did not sleep. I ran on two to three hours of sleep every day, every night. I relied on naps, and I was probably depressed, but that is a self-diagnosis, but it was probably real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1068.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How so?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1133.0,1136.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I don’t know. It was really interesting because my best friends from home, the ones I’ve been friends with for eight years, were going through the same things where it took everything in me to get out of bed at least three times a week to go to class. I just didn’t want to leave. I didn’t want to hang out with people. I didn’t want to talk to anybody. There were times where I considered missing entire exams because I was like, I don’t wanna go to class. I don’t wanna do this anymore. I was really, really sad, and it wasn’t necessarily that I wanted to go back home where I miss home. I didn’t want to be here. I didn’t want to be here. I was like, This is such bullshit. I hate this, and I was struggling, but I was like, I had to keep going. This semester I think it was more—this school year has definitely been my best school year ever, and it was more anxiety where I would wake up in the middle of the night sweating because I felt like I have something to do. That I have to study. I ended up going to the gym because I was like, I don’t want to study, and I’m not going to which was good, but sophomore year was the worst.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1136.0,1207.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How did you deal with stress and anxiety?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1207.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I talked to my friends because we’re all going through the exact same thing. We all come from low-income backgrounds where, for my personal case, it’s very different, but in general, our families or their families were dependent on them because they’re first-generation to bring the family up. It was a whole lot of like, We couldn’t quit. We didn’t have a choice. Our only choice was to keep going. What is quitting? If you quit, what are you gonna do with your life? You’re gonna go back home and tell everybody that you dropped out of college—seriously? We all knew our only option was to keep going. We depended on each other. I think, for me, my mom didn’t go to school. She didn’t finish high school, but my dad has his Master’s in Theology. He’s a pastor. My sister graduated with her Bachelor’s of Nursing. My brother has a Bachelor’s in Respiratory Therapy, and he works at Ohio State University’s hospital, and he’s doing his master’s now. I don’t remember in what, but that’s okay! We always knew that we’re gonna go to college, but growing up, I was that kid that was always academically stellar even in my family. I was that child. I read a lot. I always had really good grades. I went to the best high school within my public district high school. Whatever. I was that kid that everybody knew was going to go far. Even in my high school, I went to the best college out of everybody. I was always that smart kid that everybody knew was going to go far. The idea of like, What am I gonna do? Go home and tell everybody that I didn’t? It wasn’t an option. We depended on each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1210.0,1324.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Did that add to your stress?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1324.0,1325.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Yes. A lot. I think I grew up in a very traditional family, but it also had a lot of pressure on how you carry yourself and how you present yourself to others and to the world. You had to carry yourself a certain way. My dad will always say like, All his children were going to succeed. He didn’t care. That was it, and, for me, my success came in academics. I don’t think any of us had a choice in that. All of our success had to come in academics. I had to because I would go home and tell everybody like, I quit, and it’s really hard. You go home. You go to church. Everybody is like, Oh how is school? Oh, you’re doing such great things. We’re so proud of you. You need to talk to my son or my daughter because they’re doing this, and I want them to become like you. It’s like, I’m really struggling. Even on Snapchat, when it comes to social media, people put out what they want other people to see, and people will message me on my Snapchat. Mind you, I think I’m very honest on my Snapchat. I will show videos of me crying and be like, Y’all I’m about to quit, I can’t do this, and people will message me and be like, I really look up to you, and I really wanna be just like you. I’m like, Wow people actually look at me that way. I can’t quit. I gotta keep going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1325.0,1417.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: What networks of support have you found here, or do you feel like there is support for anxiety and stress?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1417.0,1424.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I know they exist. We have CAPS, which is the counseling and psychological services. I’m part of the Black Mental Health Ambassadors, which is a group under CAPS that was created under CAPS to highlight the mental health issues that black students face on campus, but I don’t use them, and I think it’s very culturally-based even though I am part of it, and I’m a proponent of it—if you need it, you should definitely go, there’s nothing wrong with it. But it’s not a thing in my primary culture and the black culture, in general, of seeking psychological services or counseling. There’s that saying, “White people go see shrinks. Black people go to the church.” Which needs to change, but it’s that idea of, You just figure it out, and you keep going. Even in my family, whenever there’s an issue, it’s like, there is a certain way that you present yourself. There’s a face that you put out to the world, and if there’s an issue, you keep it in the family, and we’ll figure it out, and we’ll move on. I think growing up in that, I’ve internalized that. I really don’t see myself ever going to a counselor or a psychologist. I talk to my friends, and we talk to each other. It usually works out. Most of the time, I need to talk out my problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1424.0,1513.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Do you think there’s a stigma among the black community for seeking out institutional support?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1513.0,1519.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Absolutely. I don’t think it really exists at Emory ‘cause at Emory, people are more liberal or whatever, but, once you step outside of Emory, there’s this stigma that that’s not what you’re supposed to do, and I don’t know why, specifically, where it comes from. It’s like, Oh that’s a white people thing, which is very stupid because—I don’t know. I think there’s a different tolerance level that black people have. I know a lot of people, a lot of black men, and a lot of black women from home who probably have PTSD. You’re growing up hearing gunshots all the time. The gangs, and all of this, and police brutality and stuff. You have issues, but we deal with it, like, Oh it’s life. We just continue going. I hope that changes. I think I’m doing my part in trying to help it change. I think we’re going in a positive direction. I think my generation is making changes that will last into future generations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1519.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: In what way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1593.0,1595.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think on social media we’re bringing mental health out more. We’re talking about it more with friends. We’re discussing it more with family. That idea of self-care or safe spaces. If I don’t want to talk to you today because it will be too much energy, I’m not going to talk to you, and that’s okay. It’s not by force for me to interact with you if I don’t want to. I think we’re more—we’re bigger proponents for bringing mental health services and mental health issues to the forefront, and to the public eye. It doesn’t have to be something that is hidden. It needs to be something that is normalized because, in the U.S., especially being a black person, you’re dealing with a lot. It’s okay to seek help. If you need to seek help, you need to seek help, and that’s okay. Bring it out and normalizing it. Bringing it up in normal conversations. I think it makes a huge difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1595.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: You repeatedly pointed towards diversity. How do you experience diversity here at Emory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1653.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I don’t really think there is diversity here at Emory, which is really funny. I applied to Emory because it had the highest percentage, at the time, of African American students, when I was applying, out of all the top schools, and it was ten percent, and I think they were changing the dynamics now, but that’s not really a lot, and you know it’s not a lot because we all know each other. Even if I don’t personally know you, I’ve seen your face. There’s really very few times where you meet a new black person that you haven’t seen before. I think there’s diversity at Emory in terms of the states and the countries people come from. You see a black person, and they stick out. You see a Latinx or brown person, they stick out. I feel like, until they reach a point where they don’t stick out, diversity is not really there. It’s a pamphlet to attract students, which I fell for, but that’s okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1659.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How do you feel about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1724.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I feel lied to, but I also think college is what you make of it. I thought there would be more black people, but I also think that goes into my idea of college. I thought it was gonna be more socializing. I actually thought it was going to be like Zoey 101, and it’s not. Zoey 101 is a television show that I watched growing up. The main character’s name was Zoey. I actually don’t think they were in college. I think they were in a high school, but it was basically college where they lived at the high school. They had dorms and everything, and they hung out. I didn’t really see them in class that much. I thought college was gonna be like Zoey 101, and it wasn’t. That’s okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1725.0,1777.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: In your time at Emory, what communities are you apart of?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1777.0,1783.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I would say the black community. I didn’t really join—and this is something that I sometimes regret. Coming into freshman year, I was like, I wanna stick to what I know. I wish I did join other clubs and different clubs to give me a more broader view of Emory, but I joined all the black clubs. I come from Ghana. I joined the African Students Association. I got involved in the NAACP [ed. note: National Association for the Advancement of Colored People], the BSA [ed. note: black student alliance]. I joined Ngambika, which is a freshman step—a community service-oriented freshman step team on campus for girls, and BAM [ed. note: brotherhood of Afrocentric men] is the male equivalent, and I joined all the black stuff, and I never left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1783.0,1827.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: How did you make that decision?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1827.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I knew I was coming into a very white space, and I knew that, if I didn’t find a community, if I didn’t find a place where I felt comfortable, I would have a very, very horrible time at Emory, and I had to spend four years here. The determinant factor for me for coming to Emory, I saw the financial aid, and I think that same day I was like, Yeah I’m coming. For me, it was like, I have to make it what I want it to be. I need to find the people that I’m comfortable with. I found the black people, which wasn’t really that hard to find, and I stuck with them. I think now that I live off campus, and I’m more by myself, I think I would want to do things that look differently, explore more. Not necessarily at Emory, but in Atlanta in general. I wanted to try and feel comfortable here, knowing that I was gonna spend four years here. Honestly, I even started before I came to Emory. When you get into Emory, they have Facebook pages for each year. I’m the year of 2019, and I went on that page, and I found all the black people, and I sent them a friend request on Facebook, and a lot of my friendships were actually started on Facebook, and then I met them in person in real life once we actually got to Emory, but yeah, I was very adamant about finding black people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1829.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Was there a community that was not necessarily predominantly-black that you had wanted to join?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1915.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: [pauses] Not really. No, I think all the different black organizations touched upon a different facet of my personality. I do wish I had—oh, I wanted to do—what’s that sport called? It’s like football, but it’s not football, and you have the ball, and run towards people, and you’re tackling them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1920.0,1954.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Rugby?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1954.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Rugby, yup. I wanted to join rugby, and I didn’t, and I’m not going to. I don’t know. That’s so different from what I would have normally did. I’m a dancer, and that’s what I do, and dancing is a sport. I don’t care what nobody says. I dance, but I wanted to do rugby, and I didn’t.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1955.0,1973.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Do you regret that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1973.0,1975.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Yeah. I don’t know. I feel like it would have been a good way to meet different people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1975.0,1981.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Why didn’t you do it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1981.0,1983.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Nobody I knew did rugby or ever mentioned rugby. All the black people I knew, which are the only people I know, didn’t do rugby. I didn’t do rugby, which is really bad ‘cause I’m following the crowd, but yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=1983.0,2002.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: You mentioned white spaces. How do you feel as a person of color when you walk into a classroom at Emory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2002.0,2008.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I find the black people, and I sit by the black people. I didn’t really notice it until this semester. I wasn’t intentionally doing it. It was an unconscious decision. I would walk into a room. I would see where the black people were sitting. I would sit with them, and most of the time, it was one or two black people who always also ended up sitting together. We would be in a space full of black people. This semester, in my developmental theories course in the soc [ed. note: sociology] department, there’s four black people in the class. Five black people in the class, and, when I went in, there was only two black people in the class at the time, and I went and sat right by them. Then the fourth black person came and also sat by us. Then a fifth black person came and also sat by us. It was actually very segregated in the class. All of us black people sat on the left side towards the front of the classroom. The Asians sat in the front right, and then the white people were spread out. To me it’s very, very clear that I’m black. Always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2008.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Why did you make that choice, or why do you think you did?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2079.0,2083.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I think I go towards what is comfortable, and the people that I know, like I said earlier, I didn’t realize how much I did it until this semester when I noticed that I don’t know where like, Wow I always sit by the black people. I think it just makes me more comfortable. I think the black people are more likely to help me if I have questions because I put this image in my head that like, Well the black people on this campus are trying to help each other succeed, which is not always the case, but all the black people that I know, I know we encourage each other. When we need help, we always help each other. We have a black GroupMe where people ask like, What’s the best professor to take this class with? We’ll tell them like, Take this person if you’re this type of person, and this is how you learn, take this professor. In my head we’re always trying to help each other to succeed. If I have a question, or I don’t understand something, or if I make a reference, then I think I expect the other black person to help me ‘cause we’re both black in this white space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2083.0,2152.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: What has surprised you most with your experiences at Emory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2152.0,2157.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: [says softly] What has surprised me the most? [pauses] I think I learned a lot about blackness that I wasn’t really expecting because I don’t see Emory as a black space, but I think when there are less black people, and it’s black people from a lot of different backgrounds, they’re can be a lot of worn ideas of what it means to be black, and I’ve reached a point where everybody’s blackness and how they perform blackness is very, very different, and that’s okay. For me black is desansa [unclear] tribe, which is where I am, and our deka [unclear] symbols and the kente cloth and it’s chicken, and mac and cheese, and jerk chicken, and rice and peas and everything, and it might be something completely different for somebody else. For me it might be afro-beats and hip hop. For another person it might be rock, and that’s okay because, I think, growing up, everybody liked sagged. We all listened to hip-hop and B-E-T. We all dressed alike. We all went to the same high schools and the same middle schools that were bad as shit, and the same elementary schools. Our blackness was all very, very similar. I might have been the only different black person because I was also African but coming to Emory has really shown me there’s a lot of different blackness-es, and my idea of blackness is not the only idea of blackness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2157.0,2271.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: And has this changed your idea of blackness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2271.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] \n\nAS: Yeah ‘cause I think I came in a very conservative in my views of what blackness is. Conservative in a lot of things, honestly. Meeting different people changed that. A lot of the black people at Emory—in my idea, I don’t know why I thought this, but I always though all the black people at Emory were also low-income. That’s literally not true. A majority of them are actually high income, or their parents are lawyers who own firms. I have this one black person that I know who lives in Chicago who lived down the street from the Obamas. His family personally knows Barack and Michelle Obama. It’s that idea of like, Woah. It’s not what I’m used to. My idea of blackness was low-income, and the hood, and ratchetness, and twerking and all of the mainstream dances which, back when I was younger, was the jerk and the dougie and all of that, and it wasn’t the same here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2275.0,2348.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: If you could talk to yourself as a freshman, what advice would you give, or advice for other freshmen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2348.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: Drop chemistry. Drop the course. Drop the course. Drop the course, or if you want to generalise it, don’t stay in a class because all your other friends are in that class, or everybody around you is doing that. It’s okay to do your own thing because you know what you’re good at. Don’t lie to yourself and say you’re gonna make something work ‘cause it’s not gonna work out, and you’ll make it through. You’ll make it through. It’ll be hard. There will be lots of tears, but you’ll make it through, and your friends are your best bet at making it through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2355.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Our last question. What do you think are some of the biggest challenges facing your generation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2397.0,2401.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: The white Nazis, man. I don’t know what is going on in America that this whole idea of being a Nazi is okay and cool again. It’s not. I wouldn’t say racism because I think, as a black person in America, racism has always been there. Now, it’s getting filmed. That’s all that it is. I don’t think any black person in America is really surprised, unless they grew up in a very sheltered, quiet space or something, about what is happening when it comes to racism in America, but this whole alternative white Nazi thing. That shit has to go because it’s very, very threatening, and I think, as a black person in America, we’re used to being threatened, but this is a different caliber in my generation because we didn’t grow up with that. Of course, during slavery times and the civil rights movement and things like that, our ancestors were always threatened, but that’s not an era that I grew up in. I’m growing up in an era where it’s basically coming back. A black church got bombed, you hear what I’m saying? School shootings are normal now? We hear about a school shooting, and we’re like, Oh well. Children dying is normal. Black people dying has been normalized, and I think we’re becoming desensitized to it. I know I’m definitely becoming desensitized to it because it’s literally all the time. All the time. I think that would be our biggest issue and finding ways to resolve that. I don’t know. I don’t know if we can resolve it. I don’t really know. I don’t want to end on a negative note, but hey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2401.0,2517.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Then how do you think it could work? What are the hopes and aspirations you see?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2517.0,2521.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: I don’t know if I see any. I don’t think any of this is new. I think people are getting more confident in displaying in how they truly feel and what they truly believe. I think, on the societal level, in terms of institutions and stuff like that, they wouldn’t do something like that, or they wouldn’t portray those belief systems because it’ll be bad for business, but, in America, it’s very, very individualized, and money, honestly, is all that matters. I don’t care what nobody says. History and current times tells you that money is all that matters. If it’s not about money, they don’t really care. I don’t know if I see any hope. I think people should try and live their life as freely as they can, but it’s getting limited. I think you should try and put more good into the world than bad because every little good that you can give to the world, the world needs. I don’t know. Hopefully somebody else has an answer. I’m trying to do my best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2521.0,2595.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JC: Okay, thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2595.0,2598.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001/transcript/87730/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AS: No problem.\n\n[END TRANSCRIPTION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35743/file/105001#t=2598.0,2600.119"}]}]}]}