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Welcome to the Emory Oral History Project. Can you please introduce yourself for us?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=0.0,5.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEricka C: Um, hi my name is Ericka Canon. I’m a junior at um—I’m an undergraduate at Emory University. Um I’m majoring in—I’m doing a joint major in Spanish and Linguistics. Um, I live in Orlando. I’m not from there. I’m originally from the Bronx. Um, and I moved to Orlando when I was little. Um, and yeah.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=5.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Great um, so how long have you been in Atlanta?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=34.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: So I think this is going on three years that I’ve—‘cause yeah. I’m a second semester junior, so yeah.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=37.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: And how do you sort of experience the city?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=45.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: See that’s the problem. I don’t. Um, so I’m really stuck in Emory’s bubble because Emory is [air quotes] technically [air quotes] says it’s Atlanta, but it’s in Decatur, so Atlanta is actually like fifteen minutes away, so it’s difficult for me to get over there. I mean there are experience shuttles and stuff like that, but um I don’t have a car, and I’m not Ubering everywhere so that’s not—I’m not—I haven’t really experienced the, like the Atlanta—like even the main attractions. I think I’ve been to the aquarium maybe, and the MLK—no, Civil Rights Museum, and um, and that was because like I’m a part of the Mellon Mays undergraduate fellowship, and during my summer time—like, in the summer, we had to be here for a summer institute, and um they took us over there. So, they paid for everything, and they provided transportation, so that’s really—so um the only reason I went. So like monetarily, it’s difficult for me to get off campus, um but I wish I could see—I’m trying this semester to get off campus a little bit more ‘cause I have a friend who has a car, and she wants to experience Atlanta as well, so, you know, we were gonna be like adventure buddies, but like the past three years I’ve been here, I haven’t really left Emory’s campus as much.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=47.0,124.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Is there anything you’d like to do in the city?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=124.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: There’s the basic ones. I’ve heard of Centennial Park. I don’t know what it is—it’s just outside, I don’t know what it is. The Botanical Gardens. I wanna go there. I heard there’s a lot of fun stuff to do in Atlanta that Atlanta natives probably know more. Because Google doesn’t really help that much. There’s Six Flags, even though I don’t like roller coasters. I would go to get out of this place. Getting off campus, you feel a relief like, There’s a world outside of this high-pressure cut-throat [laughs].\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=128.0,168.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: In your time off campus, how do your experiences in Atlanta differ from your experiences of where you grew up?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=168.0,174.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: I guess because Atlanta [pause]. I don’t know. When I do go off campus, it’s different demographically. Atlanta—\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=174.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: In which way?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=197.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: It’s a lot of…I don’t want to generalize, but it’s usually Mexican and Black. For me, growing up, even in the Bronx, it was a big mixture of everybody. It was like Puerto Rican, Dominican, African American. Then, back at home in Florida, in Orlando, it’s majority—at least where I live. I live in Kissimmee. It’s majority Puerto Rican. Coming here, demographically, I was like, This is different. I got to learn…I don’t wanna say I got in touch more with my [air quotes] Black-self [air quotes] a lot when I got here because of all the experiences that I’ve had off-campus.\n\n\n\nOh that’s actually, I forgot! My first year, the Divine Nine [ed. note: the nine historically Black Greek life organizations that constitute the National Panhellenic Council], the frats. They would have parties. The Alphas [ed. note: Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity], and the Sigmas [ed. note: Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity], and the Kappas [ed. note: Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity] and stuff. I would go off-campus at night for that, for the parties, but that’s not really sight-seeing or anything [laughs]. That was a first-time college experience off-campus, and I don’t know where I’m at. I don’t know Atlanta at all. That’s also something that’s different. I always have to be aware of where I’m at, what I’m doing. I think that because I’m trying to take in as much as possible, I’m a lot more aware of like, Oh my gosh, that tree, or being like, This is so beautiful, ‘cause I’m probably not gonna live here after I graduate. I don’t know when’s the next time I can come to Atlanta. I try to live in the moment when I am off-campus. If I am with friends, I’m not tryna’ think about school and work. I’m thinking about enjoying this quality time with whoever I’m with, or in the space that I’m in. I try to be a lot more self-aware.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=199.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Does this city feel like home to you?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=310.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: I don’t think so. I wouldn’t say home. I haven’t found somewhere that’s like, I love to go there. I love hanging out there, or I haven’t even found a group outside of Emory. All of my friends are in Emory, inside of Emory, or have graduated. That doesn’t really count. \n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=313.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: You mentioned the difference between the idea of being in Atlanta and an Emory bubble. What is the Emory bubble in your opinion?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=338.0,345.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: Emory bubble is twenty-four seven on Emory. You eat here. You sleep here. You breathe here. You fall asleep in the library. That’s the norm here. The Emory bubble is not—even when you leave Emory, you see Emory Healthcare and Emory this, and it’s always Emory. Everything is Emory, Emory, Emory. It’s being stuck in this little—I don’t know. It’s like an incubation [laughs]. You don’t really get to meet people from outside. You don’t really get to see things from outside. Emory’s campus is beautiful, but this is not Atlanta at all. At least the little I’ve seen of Atlanta, this is not representative of Atlanta at all. Being in the Emory bubble is, you don’t even know what’s out there, because you don’t you can’t really leave—or, if you don’t leave from here, you don’t know what’s out there. It’s like being at home all the time. ‘Cause this is where I go to class, and this is where, like I said, I eat. I live on Clairmont. I cook and sit. All my friends are here. Everything is here, here, here. When I can get away from here, when it’s breaks, when it’s summer break or Christmas break, I’m trying to leave as quick as possible because I don’t wanna be here anymore. I’m tired of it.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=345.0,431.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Do you think that that’s a shared experience for other students?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=431.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: It depends. It depends who you’re talking to. I’m sure a lot of the white students do not feel that way. The white affluent students. Or even, you don’t even have to be affluent or rich. You can be middle class, but there’s a lot more things to do for white people. At least on Emory’s campus. They might feel all happy and stuff, ‘cause they have the entire frat row, and this—\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=436.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: What do you mean exactly by that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=465.0,466.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: Like frat row?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=466.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Yeah.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=467.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: There’s all the sorority and the frat houses on frat row. There’s only one—they took away the Alpha’s house. You only have one Asian frat, which I think is Xi Kappa, and then all the other frats are white, and all the other sororities—oh no, the AKAs have a house now, and the Deltas might have a—I don’t remember, but majority is still for them. They look like they’re enjoying themselves a lot more than me and my friends. Starting Wednesday night, they’re going out. You see all the girls in heels, and I’m like, Where are you going? Do you not have class? [laughs] They might go out and see Atlanta more, or have the privilege to go out more, and Uber places. If you ask everybody, some people might say, I love Emory! And some people might be like me and be like, Emory’s great, but it’s suffocating me.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=468.0,528.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Do you believe that some of the events are specifically geared towards white students at Emory?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=528.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: I don’t think that they’re specifically geared because Emory’s all like [waves hand] diversity [waves hand] and multicultural…But I don’t find myself...it’s a cultural clash ‘cause even the conversations that I hear them having, I’m like, Why is that important to you? The [air quotes] big issues [air quotes] that they have in their life are so insignificant to me that I’m like, I don’t even feel like I could possibly hang out with you genuinely because it’s not there, and I’ve only been to a frat house once my freshman year when we were trying to be adventurous or whatever. I’m never doing that again. That was not for me. That was not for us [laughs]. That was not for people like us. There was a bunch of white boys, and a lot of alcohol and possibly drugs. I don’t know. It was uncomfortable. I felt unsafe.\n\n\n\nI don’t wanna speak for everybody, but a lot of people of color, or Black and Latinx people, might feel unsafe in those—and also it depends who you ask. I’m not over-generalizing ‘cause you’re gonna find some Black people, some Latinx people, Asian people who assimilate very well with them, and they have great white friends. I don’t think that they’re geared toward—if there’s a sorority recruitment, they’re not gonna say, Whites only, but it’s for the white people, and there’s an unspoken rule, like, That’s for the white people. Obviously, they have a couple of Black people and Latinx people, but it’s not explicitly geared toward them, but there’s certain events that are like, That’s for them.\n\n\n\nMy first year, there’s semiformal or something, and I went because it’s the first year semiformal, and that was an event towards white people. That was geared towards them ‘cause me and my friend were standing there, and we were like, What music are they playing right now? What is this? They’re not even taking requests. There’s no food here. In that sense, everybody else looked like they were having a great time [laughs]. I was like, I don’t get it.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=534.0,694.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: When you mentioned unsafe, what specifically did you mean by that? How did you interpret unsafe?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=694.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: Unsafe in the sense that, not—I don’t think I’ll ever be physic—well, that might not even, because they have rape cases and stuff over there, and drugs. But in terms of unsafe, maybe hateful, or violent rhetoric. I was always looking at, when I was in that frat house, I was like, Are they saying the N word right now? Who—like, where is that coming from ‘cause there’s a lot of non-Black people in here [laughs]. Things like that. Even when it comes to…I don’t feel comfortable. When I’m unsafe, I always have to be on edge, and I always have to be vigilant of what’s happening around me. I always feel I’m under attack. It might not even be a verbal thing that they do, or maybe it might be their body language towards me like, What is she doing here? She’s different from us. I don’t think, I purposely do not—besides the fact that Emory is a white space, but when it’s white people, and I know there’s gonna be a large amount of white people, I try not to go to those areas ‘cause I do not enjoy my time there. I’m like, There’s nobody to talk to. I don’t know what’s going on. I’m not having fun [laughs].\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=701.0,789.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: How have you learned to navigate that mapping if that’s the case?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=789.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: It took a lot of intentional seeking of community, in terms of, I was going to make sure that I was in the Black GroupMe. I was making sure that I was at all the Black events. I was making sure I was trying to become friends with Black people. I was always hanging out either in the EBSU [ed. note: Emory Black Student Union, speaker is referencing their lounge] at least my first year. I was really hanging out in the EBSU, and then towards the end of my first year, I started hanging out in Centro Latino. That’s what it was called at the time. Now it’s Centro Latinx.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=794.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: What is that?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=830.0,831.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: It’s in the AMUC [ed. note: Alumni Memorial University Center]. It used to be in the old DUC [ed. note: Dobbs University Center], and it’s a room, it’s a safe space for Latinxs, and then the EBSU is the Emory Black Student…Union, right? It’s a safe space for people to come hang out. They don’t have to worry about white people talking about Trump. They don’t got to worry about…you know. It’s a chill space that you can study. You can listen to music. You can hang out with your friends. You still know you’re at Emory, but it’s a little break ‘cause sometimes they have events in there with food. Fellowshipping can happen in there. That’s where you build your genuine relationships with other people, and you get to know people.\n\n\n\nI was making sure I was in those spaces a lot more, because if you’re not intentional about being in those spaces, you’re inevitably going to be in the other spaces, which I was not trying to do. I wasn’t trying to assimilate. I don’t, no. I also can’t assimilate because the things that they do, I wasn’t raised like that. I wasn’t born like that. I don’t have this sense of entitlement that I carry around me. I grew up poor. I grew up in the Bronx, in the projects. I don’t have. I’m not driving my Mercedes around type of thing. I can’t call daddy if I need a hundred dollars. That type of thing. I just don’t, mm-mm.\n\n\n\nEven my roommates. All my roommates. My first year, my roommate was Black, and we’re still friends. My second year, I had a single. This year, she’s Afro-Latina. We’re both Afro-Puerto Rican, and next year, my roommate is Afro-Cuban. So I’ve never had. And you know, it might sound like I’m anti-white. Which I’m not, ‘cause I know there’s nice—but this school has really put me at a point where I’m aggravated and tense all the time because of them, and it’s not necessarily that I won’t interact with them, or I won’t talk to them, or I’ll treat them differently, but for an extended period of time, there comes a point where we’re not the same anymore.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=831.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: We absolutely want to come back to this. You were talking a little bit about your background in that. Can we touch on it? Can I ask the question of what were your objectives when you came to Emory, and why you chose Emory?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=974.0,986.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: I wish I had this pretty like, Oh my gosh. Emory. I love this school. It was my first choice. I had a ranking system, like, Number one top choice that I wanted to go to. But that was my dream school. I never thought I was gonna leave the state of Florida to go to college, and as much as I would’ve loved to come to Emory regardless, it was the financial aid that was the reason I came here, because they were giving me more money than a lot of the public universities in Florida. If they wouldn’t have done that, I would’ve stayed in Florida or found another school. For me, choosing my college career, that was based financially. I was not gonna go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt for a bachelor’s degree, and that’s something that my mom always instilled in me. She was like, Apply to scholarships. Get financial aid. Do stuff like that. It was the money. If there was one good thing I can always advocate for Emory, it’s the financial aid office. They really helped me out my entire time here. I’ve only had to take out a very small portion of loans. That’s the main reason I came here. That’s the main reason I came here [laughs]. \n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=986.0,1069.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: How did you family or friends react when you chose, or when you decided that you were coming to Emory?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1069.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: A lot of them hadn’t heard of it. They didn’t know what Emory was. They were like, Oh that’s cool. Where’s that at? Emory? Atlanta? That’s cool. I know my mom was super proud not necessarily because it was Emory, but because I was going to college, and she was like, Yeah my daughter got into this good college with all this financial aid. She’s only taking a very small loan, and, at the time, when I came to Emory my first year, I was pre-med. She was like, She’s gonna go be a doctor. She was very proud of me. My friends were like, That’s super cool. A lot of people where I’m from still don’t know what Emory is. They only know Harvard, Princeton, Yale. The big Ivy league names. The only people I knew that knew what Emory was, was my doctor. My orthodontist. The people with education that would know these institutions. For my family and my friends, the name of Emory has no significance to them because they don’t know that. My mom would’ve been just as proud if I went to University of Central Florida, or if I would’ve went to a community college. She just cares that I’m getting an education. This whole elitism, it’s not really a thing in my family because I am first-generation. High school degree, my grandmother, she has a couple grandchildren, but I’m the only one to get a high school diploma. College, period, is special, but Emory, in specific, they were like, Oh yeah. They were not necessarily so happy that I was going to Emory. They were happy that I was going to college. Furthering my education.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1074.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: As a first-generation student with a financial aid package, how has your experience, and what challenges did you face that first year when you adapted to life in college?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1187.0,1198.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: Textbooks. I remember I paid—because I did get a small refund check. It was about nine hundred dollars, and I was so excited. I was like, Oh my gosh. That’s so much money to me. I think I spent about four hundred dollars in textbooks ‘cause I didn’t know about pdfs. I didn’t know about renting or how to do that. Obviously, I knew there was used textbooks. I tried to get used textbooks. I tried to do all that, but I didn’t really have friends yet, so I didn’t know how to. I didn’t have a parent, or an older sibling, or somebody to ask like, Hey how do I do this? How do I get cheaper—no.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1198.0,1246.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Who did you turn to, or what did you do?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1246.0,1247.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":" EC: I would say, maybe…That first semester I definitely sucked it up. I was like, I guess this is what we’re doing. The second semester, I started leaning on the community more. The Black GroupMe. I would put it out there like, Hey if anybody has a chem 101 textbook, are you selling it? Can you—whatever. Or sometimes, people let you borrow their books as long as you give it back. Some people give you their books ‘cause they’re trying to get rid of them. I wasn’t aware of the resources that were available at Emory, and it was difficult to find them. As a first year, I was very lost and broke. I was actually homesick for a good amount of time ‘cause I was like, There’s no Puerto Ricans here. I don’t know. There’s no arroz con habichuela [ed. note: rice with beans]. There’s nothing here that reminds me of home. It was rough my first year.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1247.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: How did you manage that?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1308.0,1311.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: Things got better when I found the Latinx community here. I went into the Black community first because they were more welcoming to me ‘cause most of the Latinxs here are not Black. I remember when I used to go into Centro, I would feel uncomfortable ‘cause I was like, They’re probably like, Why is she in here? My personality is out-going. I force myself to make friends. That was the only time I felt like, These people actually speak Spanish. Even then, it was hard because a lot of them—there’s a mixture, but a lot of them are Mexican. That’s a big cultural difference for me. I was learning a lot. Their accent is different. I was like, This is still not like home, but at least they understand me a little bit more. It was finding those communities that I found myself getting the hang of things because not only was I getting plugged into communities, a lot of these people were active on campus. They knew resources with different offices or different professors. As I began these friendships, it was also a gateway into many other things.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1311.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: You’ve mentioned communities a few times. What communities are you a part of or are important to you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1408.0,1414.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: I’m definitely a part of the Black and Latinx communities are the main one. Right now, I’m the president of the Latino Student Organization. I am an executive member of the REAL board. REAL stands for Recognizing, Empowering and Affirming Latinas Conference that Esther Garcia, she was one of them. She’s the one that started this yearly conference for Latinas here that I am a part of. What else do I do? I feel there’s a lot of things that I do.\n\n\n\nMe and my other friends. My roommate next year—that’s going to be my roommate next year, and another friend, we started a Afro-Latina dance group called ALAS del mismo pajaro [ed. note: of the same bird, may be translated differently], and we focus on Afro-Latinx dances from the Caribbean. We’re trying to expand into Afro-Mexican music, but that’s another community that we felt that, Okay we have the Black community, and we have the Latinx community, but we’re both. How do we make that intertwine, and how do we make both of our identities exist at the same time where we feel we’re not choosing? We made that ourselves because we felt like, Yeah, we’re Black. Yeah, we’re Latinx, but there’s something about us that is different that neither community in themselves are gonna be able to understand. The four of us came together, and we’ve been performing around campus for about—I think we’re going on two years now. We started as a very unofficial, chill dance group because we felt like, Nobody’s really dancing salsa. Nobody’s dancing bachata. Nobody’s dancing merengue. Nobody’s showing them that Black people can also do this as well. You always think it’s people who look like J-Lo. People that are dancing—like the salsa club, and—what is it?—Calentura. We weren’t satisfied with that. That’s why we took it a step further. ALAS, and that’s…\n\n\n\nI wouldn’t consider Mellon Mays a community, but [laughs] I guess a scholarly community [laughs]. I’m a Mellon Mays undergraduate fellow. I’m studying race and language in Puerto Rican communities in New York. That would be another community because outside of our frustrations with Mellon—the people themselves—we do come together. We’re friends. We’re scholars. There’s something I’m forgetting. If I remember, I’ll say it later.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1414.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: How have these communities shaped your college experience?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1591.0,1594.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: As I was saying, my first two years, definitely, they helped a lot. I found my second year, I was leaning more to the Latinx community because both communities have things to work on. There’s anti-Blackness in the Latinx community, and there’s xenophobia in the Black community. A lot of times, that’s why we created—after being in those two communities for so long, that’s why we came together and made ALAS because we saw that we were not really being as accepted—our Blackness was always in question when it came to black people like, You’re Black but you’re not really Black. You speak Spanish. It’s almost as if being Latina and being Black can never co-exist because, as if my Latinidad negates my Blackness. We felt like this is nonsense. We have discussions about these things because we feel like, if we brought it up to these communities, they’d be like, No, never. You’re always welcomed, or if you bring it up. We’re not anti-Black. We’re never gonna be racist. Y’all are racist. Y’all keep asking me if my hair is real. When I take off my braids, they would ask me if I cut my hair. No [laughs]. There’s things that we have to work on, and you negating it isn’t gonna work on it. After…Being in those two communities, seeing what’s wrong with them, seeing what they lack, you try to fix it. For me, I’m always a person who sees a problem and tries to fix it. I saw Latino Student Organization, and I saw it was trash [unclear??]. At least at the time, and I was like, There’s so many things wrong with it. There’s no community involvement, and it’s difficult because half the school’s under construction. It’s hard to hold events. It’s hard to come into community like that, but I was like, Let me run for president and see what I can do. There’s Consciousness is Power that was last year, and—\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1594.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: What is that?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1718.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: Consciousness is Power. I don’t remember the exact dates, but we held an exhibit one day, and it was basically a timeline of Emory’s history and all the acts of resistance by people of color on Emory’s campus. It has the Black student demands, and it had things like the first Latinx person at Emory. Different things like that. When were the Black frats and sororities founded on here? Things like that. On the second day, we had a teach-in where we talked about the need for more Latinx professors or a Latinx Studies department, and African Studies—African American Studies PhD.\n\n\n\nThat was a thing that after we took this Latinx Civil Rights class, we were so fed up. We were learning things that we felt we should’ve known for a long time, and we were like, This is because the LACS department [ed. note: Latin American and Caribbean Studies] here is really dust, and the Spanish department here is Spain. Where do we fit? Of course, the Spanish department—I don’t know if I’m gonna get in trouble for this—but the Spanish department is, you know [laughs]. The Spanish department is in denial that they’re very European. Most of them are from Spain, and if they’re not Spanish, they’re white-American from the United States and learned Spanish in Spain, and then they sprinkle in two or three Mexican professors, and they call it a day. There’s not a big variety of professors. And it’s not only in terms of teaching, but we were also asking for these Latinx professors for mentorship. I need someone to talk to, but I can’t talk to this white professor. I can’t talk to this Spanish professor because they’re the reason I’m mad. Things like that.\n\n\n\nAfter taking that class, it was called Latinx Civil Rights. The professor was a JWJI [ed. note: James Walden Johnson Institute] fellow. I really don’t know what that stands for. Is it James Walden? And then Johnson Institute [laughs]. That’s what it is. They bring professors from different parts to come here to study for a year, or sometimes they’re PhD candidates. Sometimes they’re professors who come to Emory to visit to teach. The professor was Felipe Hinojosa, and he teaches in Texas A\u0026M, and he had come here for a year. The first semester, he was doing research or something, and then the second semester he actually taught a class, and it was called Latinx Civil Rights. We took that class, and all of us in the class were like, We need a Latinx Studies department because there were so many things that we were learning that were not—and, mind you, this was an overview of Latinx history in the United States. Imagine if we could have specialized topics, and we could go into depth about these things. There was people who wanted to major in LACS, which is Latin American and Caribbean Studies, and they couldn’t because they were like, There’s nothing here to take.\n\n\n\nAfter the teach-in, because we had sent in, we had read letters—the class, the Latinx Civil Rights class—we wrote a letter to the president. We sent it to her. We sent it to Provost McBride, and we sat down. The way they did it was so mischievous and meant to break it up on purpose. What was it, like, maybe two or three days after—this was finals time. We’re all like, We have final papers to write. Final tests to study for, but we’re also trying to be student activists at the same time. That’s another thing about Emory. If you wanna change something about Emory, you’re gonna have to do it, and the people that end up doing it are probably the most marginalized of the communities anyway, because they’re being the most affected by it. Not only do they have to be marginalized at Emory, but then they have to be marginalized at Emory, try to fix Emory on top of being an Emory student. Which is, by itself—being an Emory student is a lot by itself, and then you’re a part of XYZ clubs, and you’re also trying to make an impact on—you’re trying to tell the provost how to do his job. It’s a lot.\n\n\n\nWe sat down with the provost, and Dean McElliot [ed. note: referring to Dean Elliot], and two other people who I don’t remember. They were like, Well. You’re coming to the wrong people. We’re not in charge of that. We can’t tell departments to—the departments themselves have to make these hires, and then if the professors want to come together and make a department, they have to do it themselves. We were like, Do you realize there’s nobody to reach out to? We don’t even have anybody right now in these departments that we feel—‘cause, mind you, even the people that are in the departments now, we have the few Latinx people of color, they’re already stretched thin because all the people of color are already coming to them. In an attempt to shut us up temporarily, they’re doing a Latinx cluster hire now as of this year, they announced it, and I think they’re hiring three professors, in Latinx scholars—in Latinx Studies. It’s a small win, but we’re not done.\n\n\n\nI think the Emory Wheel asked if this is what we wanted, and I’m like, I guess. A little bit, but this is not what we asked for. We asked for a department, and we’re not asking for this to happen overnight, but Dean McElliot said it: “We’re hiring these people with no intention of making a department.” Your intentions are clear, so you’re just doing this to look—to make us happy. We’re not done. Hopefully, my senior year, I’ll be working more on that because, at least before I leave Emory, I don’t want another Emory student or another Ericka to come in and have to deal with the same stuff that I dealt with.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=1719.0,2117.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: What does having a professor with whom you can identify mean to you?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2117.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: The first time that happened was when I took Race and Ethnic Relations with Dr. Abigail Sewell. When I was able to sit down in her office and be real with her, and she understood me as a Black woman. We could sit down and be real with each other. That was wow. I always felt like—they would always say, Go to office hours, or whatever, but I was always scared. I was like, Oh my gosh, these people are professors. But after awhile—after being able to connect with people who understand me and can connect with me, it’s like, No these are people. These are human beings as well. And it’s not only a cultural thing or whatever, but they can also connect you with resources. They can also tell you to, Apply to this scholarship or apply to this fellowship; I know this professor that works in XYZ university that I can tell him about you, or whatever. Those type of things that you can get with white professors, yeah, but I don’t know. It’s different, and I don’t know how to explain it.\n\n\n\nI never knew that it was necessary until I came to Emory because, in high school, one of my favorite teachers was white. I never thought that it was a racial thing. Emory made my racial awareness go through the roof. They’re more understanding because even if they are better off not because of their job, professors of color are still professors of color in white academic space. They understand what it is to be marginalized, and they understand what it is to be in an elite institution where you are underrepresented, and you feel your voice is always not being taken into account. That’s something that they can understand that white professors will never be able to understand.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2122.0,2247.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: You’ve worked around this question a little bit, but I’ll ask you directly. How have you experienced diversity at Emory?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2247.0,2252.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: Diversity at Emory. I don’t know. I feel they throw some Black people on a flyer, and they’re like, Look we have Black people. And I feel they try to take credit for a lot of things that are student run. That are created by students, and for students, and they were like, Look what we have. Look what we have, but would y’all have done that if we wouldn’t have said anything? That type of thing. It’s a constant battle of like, You didn’t tell us we needed that, but if you’re really in tune with the needs of your students, we wouldn’t have to tell you. And we wouldn’t have to work for it, and we wouldn’t have to fight with you. It’s a really big bureaucracy. You have to jump through all these hoops and do ten backflips to even make a little progress.\n\n\n\nDiversity to me…I think that…‘cause obviously there are schools that are worse than Emory. There’s nooses and stuff being hanged. But that’s still not an excuse for you to do better. Emory can do better, and it should do better, especially Emory being located where it is. There’s so many Black people, so many Mexican people here. Those students from Atlanta are not coming here. Why is that? They don’t think these things. Half of the population is coming from all these different states, but a lot of them are not coming here. When I worked with Jonathan Peraza, he would go to different schools in the Atlanta metro area, and he would tell people about Emory. This is not a school that they think that they can attain, that they can come to. At least the Black and Latinx communities of Atlanta. Diversity at Emory is a little bit funny. Where the representation matters the most, I don’t think you see it.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2252.0,2383.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: What would that be?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2383.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"EC: In terms of the professors. What’s the variation there? We just had the first woman president which is Claire Sterk, and she’s still white. There’s certain things that—and then you also have all the custodial workers and cafeteria workers. They’re all Black. That’s one thing about Emory that I found so weird. Black people serving white people. I don’t like it. I don’t know what I think about diversity at Emory. It’s not great. You have to find it yourself. It’s not readily available.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2384.0,2437.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: How do you feel as a person of color when you walk into a classroom at Emory?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2437.0,2441.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: I don’t remember because I haven’t been in many classes where I’ve been—‘cause I intentionally—after I switched from pre-med, my classes have been a lot more [air quotes] diverse [air quotes]. But I remember my first year, my first couple of years, when I was pre-med—I was pre-med from my first year and half of my first semester second year. I was taking chemistry, biology. I didn’t really focus too much on my peers. I just focused in on me, but I realized that a lot of getting through Emory is having friends in these classes and having study groups and stuff like that. Isolating myself, I think that hurt me a bit in that sense.\n\n\n\nI also felt that I always had to prove myself ‘cause there’s this preconceived idea. It might be true, but it also might be internalized like, They think I’m here because affirmative action, or they think that I’m here because I got a scholarship. I always felt like I had to prove myself like, Yes, I’m smart. Yes, I can compete with you. Yes, I deserve to be here. I’m still struggling with that because it’s hard to get over that notion of imposter syndrome at Emory. When you’re in elite white spaces all the time, where you feel like you’re always being questioned on your intelligence and your capabilities, it’s hard to get over. I remember one time I was the only Black person, period, in a class. I didn’t have…I had one friend maybe, and she was Asian. I didn’t enjoy that class. I feel it’s so weird. That is so weird to me. Being the only person of color. Coming from my background. It’s different.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2441.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Do you think that that has shaped how you navigated or how you organized your university career by seeking spaces that you felt more comfortable or more determined by your interests and personality?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2580.0,2595.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: It might be a little bit of both…because Mellon is a route that I took only because I met Jonathan only because I was in Centro. It fell out that way. I felt a lot of the career path I chose was more about people seeing in me what I didn’t see in myself. I didn’t get that in the pre-med route. It was a bunch of STEM people who were like, You don’t get it. You’re stupid, you know? [laughs] Versus in the humanities, there’s some white professors in the humanities that will really help you. But after meeting all these people in Centro and in EBSU that were in the humanities, and they connected me with this professor and that professor, and the professor was like, You’re smart. They actually gave me encouraging words to keep going. I don’t think I’m ever going to be one hundred percent comfortable. Even Mellon, I’m not comfortable ‘cause sometimes I’m not reading enough, or I don’t know what this theory is. I don’t know. It’s a mixture of both.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2595.0,2688.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: You mentioned a few things that come together. Being at a predominantly white university or white space is feeling a little bit aggravated and intense. How have you managed these feelings of either stress or anxiety or aggravation?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2688.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: My first two years, it was a lot of venting with other people, and maybe some unhealthy habits, and I know most of my friends do go to psychological services, and I’m starting to go. I never thought that I would need a therapist or a psychologist. Emory has pushed me there, and I’m trying to cope with it. That’s also something I wish something my first year that I would’ve known like, Just go to therapy. Just do it [laughs]. Just do it, and your life will be so much easier. Especially, at least in my house, it’s so stigmatized. But, at this point, in my academic career at Emory, I’m going to CAPS [ed. note: counseling and psychological services] now, and I haven’t really gone consistently. I’m gonna start going. Hopefully, that will help me.\n\n\n\nI keep saying Jonathan, but that’s because Jonathan is amazing, and he’s been the one really helping me, ‘cause he went through this stage too. You come from your background. Then you come to this really white space, and then you get really angry at white people, but being angry at white people doesn’t help you. It only causes stress on yourself because white people are still gonna be white people. They’re still gonna have their privilege. You have to learn how to navigate like, Where are the good white people? Where are the white people I need to stay away from? How can I use the resources that they have? How can I—navigating those things and changing your perspective on how to navigate the world because I feel like you come here and, at least for me, that’s how it was. I took that Race and Ethnic Relations class, and I was like, Everything is racist and I hate everyone! But that’s not healthy for you. It might be true in some sense, but it’s not healthy ‘cause you’re gonna deteriorate yourself worrying about what they’re doing.\n\n\n\nYou have to do a lot of self-care and worry about yourself. Worry about what you need. Maybe you have to say no to some things. Maybe you can’t do things right now. Maybe you need to stay in your room one day, but you have to be focused on yourself. Another thing is also, I was always trying to do everything. I was trying to be president. I was trying to do this, I was trying to do that. You can’t do everything, and as I’m learning now, as I’m going into my senior year—even though this semester just started, but I’m going into my senior year, and I’m thinking about LSO, Latino Student Organization. I’m thinking of LSO, and I’m like, If I’m not president, who’s gonna do it? But somebody will do it, and if nobody does, that’s not your problem anymore ‘cause you dealt with it, and you did all that you can do and all that’s in your power to do everything you could, and you have to sit back at times and see the fruits of your labor, and chill. That’s a process that has taken me almost three years to get to [laughs].\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2704.0,2915.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: We’re wrapping up here, and I wanted to ask you. What do you think is the biggest problem facing your generation? If you could think big and broad?\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2915.0,2925.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: Big and broad…I think that…my generation. There’s a lot of things wrong with us in terms of—we’re divided. And of course, I’m not here to…I feel like we’re, we’re so against each other. Everybody’s like, He’s problematic for this. He’s problematic for that. Then, when people are constantly calling you problematic, then you don’t wanna hear what they have to say, and then you continue being problematic. I think that we’re not—of course, it’s not anybody’s job to teach anyone, or to hold anyone’s hand while you’ve been going through years of distress and suffering, but, I don’t know, it’s hard especially with the current administration, it’s hard to be on a united front, and that’s one thing that he’s [ed. note: assuming she is referring to President Trump] done very successfully. That he’s divided us—well we’ve always been divided as a nation ‘cause you know, but he’s instilled fear in us again. But my generation—I’m thinking of more United States—but, my generation in specific is more willing to do something. I don’t know. That’s not a problem, but I’m saying good things are gonna come out of these problems. They’re willing to do something. They’re willing to try to change something, and we lack a lot of empathy and compassion for each other because there’s people saying right now, Why are people complaining that they’re not getting paid during the shutdown? They’ll get paid eventually. Sis, tell that to your car payments. Tell that to your mortgage like, Your house is about to be taken away. People don’t think, and people refuse to listen. You need to think. You need to listen. Stop talking so much. If we could—I don’t wanna say kumbaya. I don’t think that’s ever gonna happen, but I’m saying I think that [laughs].\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=2925.0,3064.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Do you have anything else you’d like to talk about that I haven’t asked you?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=3064.0,3066.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: I feel I’ve talked a lot [laughs].\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=3066.0,3072.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nJC: Thank you very much.\n\n\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=3072.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053/transcript/29034/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n\nEC: [laughs] No problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.libraries.emory.edu/collections/1194/collection_resources/35784/file/105053#t=3074.0,3076.608"}]}]}]}